Talhoffer's
Medieval Fight Book Blog
A journal of working
in Denmark for the National Geographic Channel program,
Medieval Fight Book, produced by Wild Dream Films
By John
Clements
In
October 2010, I was asked by the production company Wild
Dream Films to write a "short" blog about some of
my experiences as fight master and historical consultant
for their program on the 1459 edition of Hans Talhoffer's
Fightbook. As an expert in the subject of Medieval
and Renaissance close combat, I was contracted to provide analysis
and commentary plus arrange some select fight sequences
and demonstrations of fighting techniques from Master Talhoffer's
compendium.
In
August 2010, my apprentice, Aaron
Pynenberg, and I traveled to the Denmark Medieval
Centre
in Nykobing Falster. We arranged some judicial fights
and foot combat demonstrations, filming scenes with longswords,
messers, spiked duelling shields, armored versus unarmored
encounters, and, yes, the famous man-woman "hole in the
ground" judicial duel. As of this writing I have
no clue as to how much or what of our efforts will make
it in the final program nor what aspects of the many hours
of material we performed will be shown in what context.
The
Wild Dream crew
was supportive and great to work with, the director challenging,
the location inspiring, the material demanding, and the
experience invaluable. Everything went really well, considering.
It was a grueling,
exhausting, fascinating, educational, and wild time. We
had 12-hour days on set, did hundreds of takes, and learned
a huge amount.
Aaron
and I did several fight scenes and technique displays while
I gave numerous observations on Talhoffer and Late-Medieval
Germanic sources of historical European close-combat.
In the process we did some interesting and original things
by displaying our new form of spontaneous fight execution
beyond any stage combat / stunt fencing of this type ever
done before on camera. Relying on an unrivaled mastery of
authentic historical combat techniques for creating never-before
seen action we employed my unique Spontaneous Arranged-Fighting
Execution system - the "SAFE" method (TM). Featuring an
authoritative and pioneering program with a physically intense
and highly original alternative outside the box of current
standards, it offers a new alternative to the dry, over-used
clichés of entertainment industry fight director certification.
The approach relies on martially sound, historically accurate,
and visually dynamic material.
Some Background: Talhoffer's
Significance
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While talking with the producers on phone and discussing
Talhoffer on camera for them, I tried to stress my opinion
that the real significance of Talhoffer's Fechtbuch
is that it's the very first historical source we have which
illustrates the fighting techniques of the late
14th and early 15th century German masters of defence. While
Talhoffer is somewhat underrated and less appreciated by
historical fencing students than important works by other
masters such as Johannes Liechtenauer, Sigmund Ringeck,
and Hans Leckuechner, it nonetheless represents some of
the most elegant combat artwork of the genre.
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I first encountered the 1459 edition of Hans Talhoffer's
Fechtbuch about
20 years ago when I obtained a crude photocopy of the foot-combat
section. I recall being fascinated at seeing for the first
time a treatise on knightly fighting techniques that made
it look wildly brutal yet obviously skillful. It was
a work that wasn't included in Egerton Castle's famed 1885
book on Medieval and Renaissance schools of fence.
Nor was it described in any significant later histories
on the subject, such as Terrence Wise's underrated 1971
history of the art and science of personal combat.
Only one 19th century German academic work examined Talhoffer's
material and even then failed utterly to appreciate his
importance.
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Even from what little I knew about the subject in the 1980s,
I quickly discovered that 19th and 20th century writers
on the topic of 15th century close combat had gotten it
all wrong. They failed to grasp how the material represents
martial arts and
not just "fencing." Talhoffer's content was so outside of
the depictions and misconceptions of pop culture's notorious
misrepresentations of Medieval swordsmanship and was certainly
nothing like the familiar parry-riposte style of baroque
fencing that makes up the modern sport form. The nature
of the fighting presented in Talhoffer's illustrations was
also so radically different than what I had seen in various
reenactment and living history concoctions with their mock
battle displays and pretend knightly tournament games.
Because of all this, Talhoffer's little known work was instrumental
in encouraging my own personal quest to learn what actual
fighting methods of this era were really about.
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Fast forward another ten years and several editions of Talhoffer's
treatise sat on my desk along side a dozen other similar
fight books from the 14th to 16th centuries. The power of
the emerging Web allowed enthusiasts the world over to share
ever-improving digital copies as well as thoughts and opinions
on practicing the martial arts teachings they contained.
By the year 2000, I had already been incorporating much
of Talhoffer's techniques into my own training and instruction.
That same year I wrote an introduction to the first published
English-language translation of one edition, and soon after
obtained fine replicas of the very swords and weapons used
in the work.
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Here I am now in the present, one of the very few professional
instructor-researchers of Medieval and Renaissance fighting
arts and the world's foremost proponent of the subject.
So, when I was invited to be involved in a special television
program (the first ever on a European master of Defense)
on this unique and under-appreciated work, I was more than
eager. Asked to present realistic fighting action in the
style of his time, and coordinate and arrange historically
accurate combat sequences based on his treatise, I said
absolutely! I knew my knowledge in this field would be of
great valuable in helping present Talhoffer's fight book
in a way that would showcase its artistic, cultural, and
martial significance.
Pre-Production Video Animation
Work
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Before we learned when production was to actually begin,
I was first called on in July to create some 16-minutes
worth of core-motion footage for Wild Dreams' animators
to work from in creating some CGI sequences from Talhoffer's
plates. The idea was to show how select techniques with
longswords and messers
would have been performed and my task was to convey how
the movements would have likely started and ended, allowing
them to reconstruct them via animation. I first covered
the ways for properly gripping the swords, then displayed
the basic form of the actions and the correct bio-mechanics
of the stances, footwork, and essential strikes. This
way I was able to give them via the Internet some key examples
of how weapons and limbs really flow and move in cutting
violently from different positions. I contrasted this from the
over-used familiar movements so typical of stunt-fencing
and stage-combat. I also discussed with them the five mastercut
strikes, the intensity of sword blows, and my interpretations
of the core motions behind some of the more famous Talhoffer
plates ---such as the hat and dagger throwing image and
the warhammer dismemberment as well as the longsword beheading
the bill-fighter.
- My sample clips were
used by Antonis Kotzias, the lead CGI animator, to create
some fight sequences in the program. This was the first
time an expert practitioner of fight-book material was used
to produce animations of historically accurate 15th
century combat techniques for film or broadcast. He later
emailed me that the fight motion sequences I provided were
a style he had never seen in any movie, documentary, or
video game. It was very gratifying. But, man, it was a lot
of work. I'm eager to see what they end up doing with
it.
Air Travel Misadventures
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With only a few weeks to prepare for the trip my training
partner, Aaron, and I managed to ready ourselves on short
notice. Aboard our Delta/Air France flight from Atlanta
to Denmark an unfortunate passenger died of natural causes
only a few rows in front of us. We had to be diverted to
Ireland for them to remove the body. A two-hour layover
there caused us to miss our connecting flight from Paris
to Copenhagen, resulting in the airline then losing our
baggage for two and a half days (!).
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When we landed at Charles De Gaulle airport in Paris they
have a bus to pick you up at the tarmac and take you to
the terminal to get your connecting flight. They had us
all so packed in tightly right off the plane -- hot, crowded,
stuffy, reeking -- that someone at one end throws up on
the bus while at the other end a woman passes out and collapses.
People were trying to hold her up and screaming to the driver
to open the doors let us out or at least open the automatic
windows. But for several minutes he refused to respond and
ignored everyone as we just sat there waiting for our turn
to disembark. It was bizarre.
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These hassles cost us a number of schedule problems. We
had Aaron's hundred pound box of armor with us, but that
was mostly it. And without his gambeson (padded under garment)
that was packed in another bag he couldn't wear his armor!
All the clothing we had with us for the first two days of
the shoot was what was in our carry-ons — which, because
of past experiences, I wisely included assorted items just
in case they lost our luggage. Anyway, it all caused
a great inconvenience for us the first two days of shooting.
During the judicial shield duel scene, for instance, I couldn't
go barefoot as I should have because all I had to wear underneath
the flimsy felt costume (which was the wrong color and fit
terribly) was one pair of thin stocking tights. And my borrowed
leggings didn't fit properly either. Then, because of other
issues, Aaron didn't have historical pants for his armor
nor did he have the proper maile gussets or maile girder
under his harness. I'm sure that will be an issue
for him with the "history police" when they the program
airs (and rightly so, I say).
Talhoffer's "Cookbook"
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It might be best to describe Talhoffer's 1459 Fechtbuch
("fight book") as being just a portion of his Kriegsbuch,
or war book, which contains a fascinating collection of
devices, machinery, and presentation material on various
military arts and sciences. The material on fighting skills
(which was almost exclusively my area of professional interest
and certainly my personal fascination) is the work's largest
portion. Within that, it features sections on primarily
foot combat, itself dominated by examples of unarmed and
dagger-fighting techniques. This is followed by substantial
material on fighting with the sword and buckler, the longsword,
pole-axe in armor, and then a large segment on various kinds
of fighting for trial by combat with special duelling shields.
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My view toward the program's content was that this bound
manuscript represents something like a cookbook, in that
there are recipes on various appetizers, main courses, side
dishes, and desserts. The producers, for whatever reasons,
wanted to forgo focusing on the dishes that make up the
delicious entrées and tasty sides in favor of emphasizing
appetizers and desserts. Since the main interest of the
director was the man-woman judicial combat and the fight
with duelling shields, this meant us presenting mostly generalities
about the kind of fighting Talhoffer's work portrays and
then featuring a handful of specific actions from selected
plates.
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My only real complaint with the vision of the production
was that, if you look at this edition of Talhoffer half
of it has to do with combat arts. So, half the program should
reasonably be about that. But instead, these elements got
downplayed from what we could tell on set. Additionally,
a tiny, tiny fraction of the work depicts mounted combat
and only a few pages show armored combat (with the rest
being unarmored longsword, buckler and messer, and then
the judicial material). But there was all this seeming emphasis
being placed on mounted activities. Made no sense to me.
In my opinion that stuff has been done to death in TV documentaries
already. But, it wasn't my place to comment on this.
- As
with the nature of much documentary filmmaking, there
is often no real script to go on just the director's general
idea of what's to be captured on camera. The larger vision
doesn't come together really until editing. So, we were
not sure at all what angle the production was going to take.
All we knew for sure was that Talhoffer's martial arts
material was not center stage. As far as we could figure
during our time working on it was the program would emphasize
how "mysterious" the manuscript's "enigmatic" content was.
Judicial Duels and Trial by
Combat
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Judicial duelling makes up a good portion of the fighting
material in Talhoffer's fight book. Such contests were essentially
trial by combat, a religious and legal ordeal that let certain
disputed matters or criminal cases be settled by fighting
it out when neither side could be judged according to anything
but their own word. In a world often ruled by force it was
a right afforded to the warrior class, or noble knights,
but sometimes commoners were permitted to engage in a form
of it. As opposed to single combat challenges such
as chivalric duels or later private duels of honor, a man
(and in rare instances, a woman) would be obliged by authority
to enter into a judicial combat. He might be typically given
a month or two to prepare himself. Certain formalities and
ritual dictated the setting and conditions. Much of the
surviving fight-book literature deals with how to survive
such combat. Such occasions could be huge spectacles for
the community, sort of akin to a combination celebrity court
case, political scandal, MMA championship, and public execution
all rolled into one. In German regions at this time
commoners as well as woman sometimes engaged in such combats.
Unlike knights, they would often required to wear a strange
tight-fitting body suit (perhaps a ritual or burial outfit).
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Judicial combat has never been an interest of mine nor anything
I really get excited over, but that was a major portion
of what we ended up doing, such that we didn't get to indulge
the director in our expertise with the longsword nor on
armored combat they way we had hoped. Instead, we had to
present other things that were less interesting and less
reflective of our skills in the knightly art of 15th century
Germanic fighting. Still, it was all great experience
and there's some things on camera that's never been done
before and they told us several times they were really,
really pleased with the action and dynamism of what we displayed.
In fact, the production crew and animators sent me more
than one note reading: "We have been studying your moves
a lot from the previous videos you have sent, I'm not an
expert on martial arts but I have never seen this style
of fighting in any movie documentary or game. I hope we
do it justice in representing it properly."
The Challenge of Matching Martiality
with Theatricality
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Our challenge in this project was essentially: how do we
arrange these fight scenes to meet the needs of the director
but at the same time display the inherent violence in brutality
of this type of combat (meaning late-14th / early-15th century
Germany) in a way that would reflect the techniques and
methods from Talhoffer's fight book? And how to do
this in the way we know —that is, in a manner that
hasn't been seen before with the standard cliché theatrical/stage-fighting
arrangement? This
has nothing to do with the usual laments by choreographers
about time and space constraints or creative freedom, but
rather offering up a different method to the standard theatrical
theories of Medieval and Renaissance close-combat and the
distorted physicality by which they're typically misrepresented.
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For people like myself, as an experimental historian, a
specialist, a martial artist, we can have a deep and personal
relationship with the source materials. We're often
intricately familiar with and involved in practicing the
principles and techniques their teachings contain. Thus,
we couldn't help but bring a very different approach and
perspective to this kind of project – even though
we felt the producers weren't capitalizing on what we can
do and allowing us to fully display our unique expertise
and skill set – which, I maintain, is a decidedly
different conception (and indeed, superior) vision of historical
close-combat to that of what film and TV producers have
for so long given the public via the usual stunt fighting
industry. (This made all the more clear when you actually
catch in the program a few seconds of the shadowy silhouettes
of two fighters bashing longswords edge on edge in slow
motion ---yet more of the same old historically inaccurate
and martially unsound stunt-fighting re-enactment silliness
that we abhor.) Being known myself as a long-time
critic of the historical and martial misrepresentation so
endemic to much of stage-combat in film and television,
I am fully confident my work cannot but have a distinct
look. Many of the
seemingly realistically vicious moves we do we achieve by
use of a natural broken tempo and broken rhythm delivered
just off target or just out of range than we would normally
do if we were sparring.
Fighting for entertainment/dramatic impression is always
about creating illusion but the best illusions are those
that seem to be real. Accomplishing this is easiest when
you can do it for real to begin with.
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Because of the necessity in film or TV to do multiple takes
of an exchange or to repeat a fight sequence over and over
until the director's satisfied he has what he needs, Aaron
and I became instantly aware that (obviously) after doing
something twenty, thirty, or forty times with the force
and intensity that we practice our moves it was losing that
sense of urgency and spontaneity that we prize. We
know what is reflective of authentic martial intent, and
what looks better than the usual pretend combat, so what
we had to do was stop and say something like: Okay, you
know what we're doing at the moment is losing that sense
of real physical and emotional energy as we're getting overly
familiar with it here and it's losing the naturalness we
like and the subtle but all-important element of immediacy
you find in real fighting. So, we would stop; break the
action, break the rhythm, break the tempo, do a few other
moves to reset and re-energize ourselves then resume what
we had been doing. This way in our fight scenes we
captured that urgency and excitement we try to convey with
real techniques but is lost in virtually all fight choreography
of this kind.
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What we did half the time for the fighting portions was
a vigorous energetic free-play within an exchange of certain
prepared moves and set outcome. It was a mixture of motion
sequences and fighting techniques that we're not quite reenactment
but we're certainly not your traditional Hollywood choreographed
nonsense. The rest of the time our fights were just
performance of a specific strike and counter-strike routine,
but delivered with an increased emotionality for dramatic
impact. If the final edit retains this I think it will prove
a refreshing experience to viewers.
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Given the quality of the cinematography and camera, the
superb location/setting, the quality of the blades used,
and the quality of my partner, as well as the free-hand
we were given to specifically present historically accurate
fighting techniques, I expect the final result (...fingers
crossed) to be among the best work I have ever done for
commercial broadcast or film.
On and Off the Set
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Throughout the production there were a number of location
issues with tourists, animals, background noises, people
in frame, etc. As would be expected, several seemingly great
takes had to be redone. While I mostly occupied myself with
mentally running through our sequences and portrayal of
the physicality of this kind of combat, it was harder on
Aaron who spent several hours in authentic plate armor just
waiting around only to then be called on to perform some
feat of running, jumping, climbing, floryshing, etc., seven,
eight, or nine times in a row. Glad I wasn't him. Lol.
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At one point during a take I had to refer to "chain maile,"
instead of using the proper term, maile,
because the director preferred it (I should have said, "the
chain-link armor called maile, often mislabeled chain mail."
But I didn't). It was rough doing exactly what was
requested and not offering or interjecting too much so that
it interfered, yet at the same time present the expertise
and advice that we were brought in for. We were definitely
not used to working that way and there was some frustration
in dealing with the challenge. But, hey, they were the employers.
I was just there to do the best job for them I could.
As an authority on historical arms and fighting methods
the bottom line that was important to me: We were exclusively
in control of the fight sequences. For the first time a
real expert in the subject was coordinating realistic combat
action and directing authentic historical encounters for
television. Can't complain about that.
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We also got to work some with the esteemed action arranger,
Mike Loades, who was on set at the Medieval Center to discuss
trebuchets and mounted combat for the program. Mike also
ended up helping out with Aaron's armor a few times and
offering some comments on Talhoffer. Mike's a fascinating
guy with a long career in stage combat and theatrical fencing
as well as exploring historical weapons and military technology.
He is a pioneer in presenting historically accurate combat
for film and television as well as a life-long explorer
of arms and armor in his own right. I've been viewing him
on TV shows since I was a teen and had the pleasure of meeting
him a decade earlier. So it was a bit surreal for
me to actually have him around for so much of the week.
Though the foot combat fighting skills of MARE (that is,
the "martial arts of Renaissance Europe") are not his area
of special expertise, I have a great admiration and respect
for Mike's extensive body of work and unmatched experience
in the industry. He was a delightful curmudgeon as
well as a kindred spirit. Aaron and I were not quite sure
at times if he fully appreciated the perspective we were
bringing to the project, though it wasn't as if we really
had opportunity to go over it with him the way we would
have if we weren't all so busy working.
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For both Aaron and I, the whole hurry up and wait pattern
of being on set was no problem. Aaron deals with that professionally
as a veteran police officer, and I, being former military
myself as well as a long-time martial arts instructor had
no self-discipline concerns. Besides, how could we
ever really be bored on the location of Denmark's gorgeous
Medieval Center. The 15th century scenery, the buildings,
the ambiance, the extraordinary attention to detail, all
gave a real sense of milieu that encouraged the right mindset.
For myself, being in historical garb with replica weapons
at that location kept me fixed on the subject in a way I
have never felt before. It was very cool. Besides,
we also knew what our call times were and when we were nearing
the end of the shoot each day and this helped us stay pumped.
Tools of Choice
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The historically accurate replica swords loaned for this
shoot from Albion Swords were invaluable. All the
weapons we had on hand from them performed flawlessly and
everyone who handled them was very impressed (oddly, most
had never even heard of Albion!). As a professional swordsman
and consumer advocate for historical fencing — with
no business relationship with Albion — I can say I
honestly consider them the finest reproduction swords available.
Several of their models are among my favorite off-the-shelf
pieces that are without question the best I have ever used.
Their "Regent" longsword astonished everyone with what it
permitted me to perform and their "Talhoffer" longsword
was the perfect match to the whole project. Both the
"Regent" and "Talhoffer" models got a lot of use on camera.
I hope a good portion of this appears in the final edit.
Both those swords are tremendous. I have said before, they
are two of the most beautiful and perfect replicas I have
ever had the pleasure to train with. The "Regent" in particular
is currently the most favored reproduction sword that I
own.
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Albion's new training Messers (short single-edged blunt
practice blades) that we also had the pleasure of borrowing
for this shoot were beautiful. We barley got to use either
their "Liechtenauer" or "I.33" model practice-swords, but
the Messers got a world-class work out on and off camera.
They handled superbly and held up fantastically to sparring
and practice fighting! Using one is like driving a
Porsche. Indeed, they are really unbelievable to play
with. These things are one of the most exciting tools I
have ever used for practice. I am in love with them. They
are so robust and sturdy they are a complete and total joy
to fight with. They were an absolute blast and allowed us
to perform all manner of full-speed close-in contact strikes
and high-impact wardings. I am anxious to see what makes
the final cut from our many hours of fighting with them
on camera.
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At one point the "Talhoffer" sword was filmed being used
to strike repeated high-speed blows against Aaron in his
Gothic plate armor. Though it looked pretty fierce, I hit
him with only about 80% force, and though his helm and armor
were scratched and dented, the blade's edge wasn't affected
in
the least that I could tell. It was a remarkable demonstration
of their quality. I am really looking forward to seeing
how this looks in HD. I can't recall something like this
ever being done for television before. (Amusingly, right
after making these cutting blows the director, Stew, asked
me to then continue on to next demonstrate how thrusts would
work on armor instead and I replied, "Uhhh...no. Not with
a sharp weapon." Aaron and I exchanged bemused looks
and I could see him grinning with relief under his helm.
Lol.) Later, we
could see the cut-like scratches the helm suffered.
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The producers also had a custom-made sword created specifically
for this program of a style of spiked warsword that appears
in Talhoffer's work. The hilt simply has sharp points
on its cross and pommel but otherwise the weapon is unremarkable.
Unfortunately, the design of the replica sword they obtained
had an incorrect center of gravity with an inappropriate
cross-sectional geometry (a common mistake in my opinion
when swordmakers don't properly consult expert fighters
or copy the exact blade profiles of existing specimens very
closely). So, we declined to use it for any demonstrations.
And because it was sharp rather than blunt we couldn't have
done any fight scene action with it anyway. There were also
several other issues with it that prevented presenting a
sword like this the way we would have liked or employing
it in a more inclusive manner. I had told them earlier that
all they really needed was to have a new hilt of this style
made for any number of dependable blades but they chose
to go in another direction. Oh well. Too bad. No
real loss.
Combat Techniques and Talhoffer's
Duels
"Act
like you're fighting, not fight like you're acting."
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Normally, fight arrangers, choreographers, or stuntmen would
get to examine and prepare their gear and props well in
advance. In this case we didn't. The wooden duelling
club the production company had made for the judicial combat
was insane for doing any mock fight with. It was real and
quite lethal, essentially being a heavy, solid, reproduction
with a sharp point and edged corners. We had to work around
it. Meanwhile the woman's flail was ridiculously unrealistic,
being nothing more than a tennis ball wrapped in some layers
of duct-tape. It had neither the mass nor balance
of the real thing and gave no impression of having to be
wielded as if it were a large stone inside of a cloth wrapping.
It bounced and rapidly whipped all around. …Ugggh.
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Aaron took a few hours to work with a volunteer from the
Medieval Center (a former nurse named Pia) who proved an
apt actress and fight student. She was wonderful for the
role of the woman in the judicial duel. I think the
results are again testament to our method. As before,
in keeping with our philosophy of arranging fight exchanges
rather than trying to "choreograph" an artificial armed
"dance routine" of sequential movements, we instead focused
on her conveying appropriate "martial intent." The goal
was presentation of the genuine physicality associated with
fighting in earnest to defend one's life in a violent encounter
like this. She was given just a few actions to perform repeatedly
within the context of appearing to naturally seek range
and timing. This holistic approach worked wonders, as we
knew it would. She looked good and the director was
pleased with how realistic the effect was on camera. There
wasn't any time wasted in trying to make some memorized
fake techniques look passable or go through a programmed
series of back and forth movement lessons with a novice.
Following our method, I instructed: "Instead
of fighting like an actor, act like a fighter." Big
difference.
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I also took a few moments out with Pia beforehand to show
her some very simple intuitive lessons that powerfully convey
certain crucial aspects of the nature of fighting so that
she was able to holistically grasped just what we meant
by the importance of having the right martial mindset. Of
course, because her fake stone flail weapon was harmless,
Aaron was able to tell her to go ahead and try to really
make contact and actually hit him. The director was
able to then call out when he wanted her to strike him on
the arm or head so that Aaron responded accordingly to the
blows when they actually landed. The main concern for us
was how to teach a non-fighter to act as if it was a life
and death situation and handle their harmless mock weapon
as if it were lethal. Meanwhile Aaron had to refrain from
possibly injuring her with the authentic wooden club while
still making it look like a legitimate contest fought with
real emotion. And all this had to be done while wearing
confining clothing that we had to make sure we didn't tear
or rip. Whew…
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The two spiked dueling shields were pretty horrible to use,
unfortunately. Although the craftsmanship was pretty decent,
not only were they much too heavy and dangerously sharp
(requiring rounding off the spikes before we could use them),
but they had unsuitable handles that were far too thick
in the center to properly grip. We couldn't possibly move
them correctly nor simultaneously hold another weapon while
holding the shaft as Talhoffer's images show. (I suspect
these shields were produced by prop makers or, more likely,
by reenactors who typically need extra thick versions to
withstand repeated intentional bashing by the limited strikes
of their mock combat method, as opposed to training with
a functionally maneuverable shield like the kind you would
want to defend your life with.
Historically,
a shield had to be easy to manage and was considered a disposable
item, not something to preserve. But since no surviving
version of Germanic dueling shields survive, modern makers
have to guess at their design and that leads to major problems
if historical martial arts practice is not the motive.
So, with these clumsy things, we quickly worked out a handful
of safe but brutal looking exchanges that we forcibly executed
with feigned violence. We just repeated them with rapid
use of some basic footwork, fighting wards, and core motions.
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Aaron and I had only brief time to play with the spiked
shields in order to get a feel for what we could and couldn't
safely do or realistically perform, just as for the problematic
wooden club and "rock flail." One again, I will say that
being able to call on an immense repertoire of historical
fighting techniques and deep knowledge of how the real weapons
perform and handle got us through. Our expertise with the
authentic fighting skills of the era combined with our appreciation
for the reality of this kind of personal violence gave us
the tools to pull it off. While we continually felt
we did poorly compared to what we knew we could do, the
director kept showing us the footage right after in the
monitor and damn did they make us look good. It's amazing
what you can do when you know how to handle real weapons
in the real manner.
- Interestingly,
Aaron also commented that though he had never trained with
such a weapon he felt very comfortable with it nonetheless
because in his profession work as a SWAT officer the tactical
shield is his specialty. He said he felt an immediate affinity
for the weapon and I can attest to how adroit he immediately
was with it.
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We also engaged in an impromptu session of arming swords
with dueling shields just as depicted in Talhoffer's work.
This proved quite difficult, as the shields were so unwieldy
due to their heavy weight and overly thick handles.
We saw that we could have stabbed each other in the foot
with either the sword or the shield spikes pretty easily
(and in fact, had to be careful of accidentally doing so).
When planted in the ground the shields acted like a wall
you could fight around, but it still left you relatively
blinded to your opponent. Several times I managed to hook
my spikes on Aaron's spikes and force his shield to turn.
I also achieved this with a good kick. He was very aggressive
though and his greater strength proved a big advantage with
these things. We ended up blindly trading sword thrusts
all around and over the shields until we decided such moves
were just too hazardous and unpredictable to employ for
the sequence. The director liked it though and asked
us to repeat the exchange several times. All we really
did was bash weapons back and forth on each other shields
while feinting and dodging. Employed with a broken rhythm,
aggressive motions, and a lot of feigned apprehension it
actually looked pretty darn good from what we saw on the
monitor.
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At one point on the grounds of a reconstructed 14th century
farmhouse we were reproducing the sole plate of from Talhoffer
showing an unarmored man going up against a fully armored
opponent. This was the infamous Mortschlag
or "death blow" where the blade is gripped in both hands
to throw a bashing hit with the hilt. It's a fairly common
technique with the longsword. But in this instance
we were restricted by lighting and directing to executing
it within a small, one-meter by three-meter area of wet
straw during drizzling rain (!). For safety, I also
had to be really careful to not
hit with the cross-bar for that would have definitely caused
real damaged. To deliver the action for the camera we had
to constrict our movements down to a bare minimum of motion
to still get the proper martial context and range. And then
we had to give it 5 or 6 takes until the director was satisfied.
Several times Aaron and I had to stop to catch our breath
and we agreed that the conditions were far from optimal
to do our best work or act with good historical form and
proper intent. We had to tell the crew at times that we
just couldn't do a few of the things they were asking.
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At this point, late in
the second day of shooting, Aaron was physically and mentally
exhausted. His stamina is impressive, but hours of
running around in his armor, doing take after take, still
suffering some horrendous jet lag and loss of sleep, as
well as being off of a regular eating schedule took its
toll on him. When I conked his helm with this ferocious
pommel strike he dropped like a rock from the ringing blow.
It momentarily stunned him and put a small nickel-sized
dent on his sallet helm. He collapsed to his knees then
went down on all fours for several seconds. I knew he had
reached his limit. I quietly asked, "Dude, you alright?"
But he was so nauseous from overexertion he just groaned
the way he does when he's totally wasted from training or
a late night out. The crew naturally was nervously
concerned, but not being fighters or martial artists they're
simply not use to the knocks and blows we take for granted
as part of serious training and sparring. The tremor went
right through him to his legs he told me. It took
him several minutes to catch his breath.
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About twenty minutes later he was recuperated but by then
the day was over for our scenes anyway. The real issue to
me was that he wasn't wearing a proper arming cap under
his helm (for which I later chewed him out!) and a recent
concussion from a gunshot that went off near his ear triggered
a total loss of balance from the ringing blow, and so down
he went. He later told me that his equilibrium was so off
from an inner ear issue that for a few seconds he really
thought he was going to puke in his helmet. (The photo
here shows the two dents made by the wicked pommel blows.)
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I have to say, when it comes to facing armor I thought if
I had to I could take on an armored opponent while unarmored
and use greater agility and speed to get at his weak spots
with thrusts. No chance. Aaron knows how to fight in armor
and facing him was quite intimidating, even without the
wet ground and drizzling rain and restrictions on how much
we could step and move in that confined space, I know I
could not have gotten a thing in on him. We were using the
Albion feder-sword blunts for this and had warmed up with
some free play in between takes. I could sense the
mass and power of the armor bearing down on me. I couldn't
see a single opening or figure out how I could have gotten
a single thrust in the right place. Meanwhile, I could see
Aaron detecting this and becoming more aggressive with his
own thrusts and half-swording strikes.
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It took us several ad
hoc exchanges to make it look properly spontaneous and realistically
intense before delivering the pre-planned Mortschlag
after an agreed upon combination of rehearsed familiar actions.
Even then, we still had to give it three or four takes for
the best results. I've performed this technique on test
targets like pumpkins and watermelons in the past, and I
suspect that the practice blunt has a flex that in this
instance caused the blow to whip somewhat more than a rigid
sharp weapon would have. But using it in this instance with
good force on a moving target presented some interesting
insight. Aaron noted that he felt the wave of the impact
wash down over him and that it made him really appreciate
the technique far more. Now we know full well how powerful
it can be against an armored adversary and just why Talhoffer
included such a blow in the one plate of an armored against
an unarmored man.
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Most people don’t grasp that plate-armor was nearly
indestructible to the edge blows of bladed weapons. You
could try to stab at the joints and gaps with a stiff pointed
weapon, but slashing and hacking at it simply weren’t
going to have a serious affect. No cut by any kind of sword
in the world would kill a fighting man wearing a good harness.
It was for this very reason that to bring a knight down
specialized anti-armor weapons like warhammers and pol-axes
were developed, crossbows and longbows were used, and eventually
gunpowder preferred. The half-swording techniques of the
longsword are right in keeping with this. Though facing
an armored opponent while unarmored would surely have been
a rarity, it evidently was something you had to be prepared
for otherwise Talhoffer would not have included an example.
Seeing the Real Thing
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Seeing and handling (barehanded no less) the original Talhoffer
1459 bound manuscript was exciting. I've previously had the
pleasure of examining several original 15th and 16th century
fencing manuscripts and books. So I considered myself experienced
and prepared when the time came to finally get my hands
on the work. I have to admit, I wasn't really expecting
to react the way I did. Rather than the cool academic and
disciplined veteran martial artist, I actually felt like
a kid at Willy Wonka's chocolate factory. My breath
was short, my hands were sweaty, and my stomach was going
all butterflies with excitement and anticipation.
Setting up the shot took a good deal of time and then to
a certain degree the action itself had to be arranged beforehand.
The whole while I was just standing by but inside I was
jumping up and down.
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None of my prior encounters with original fight-books prepared
me for Talhoffer's original. I was thrilled at its
detail, its color and vibrancy. I was shocked to learn it
was made on paper (!)The condition of the work was excellent
for being well over 500 years old. The pages
looked literally like they might have been made yesterday.
I fought to contain how excited I was as I finally sat down
to look at it closely. My fingers trembled as I ever so
carefully turned the pages on camera. Even in the coolness
of the library I could feel the sweat forming on my palms.
I had to concentrate to keep my breathing even and my fingers
from shaking as I examined the sections, turning pages at
the director's cue. It actually started to become
a bit stressful as each page was slightly stuck together
and required exquisite sensitivity to touch and then turn
yet maintain complete decorum for the camera – Lol!
There was the director telling me, "turn… turn…
turn…" and there I was thinking, "There's no freaking
way I am going to turn this incredible historical work any
faster than I am now just to get a shot for TV! The pages
are sticking!" But I was determined to be careful
and mindful of the item – of which I was informed
less than 50 people have
been documented as having handled it in the last 200 years!
I looked up ever so briefly more than once to catch sight
of the two curators nervously staring at me with baited
breath. Fortunately, they soon gave a visible sigh
of relief as they saw how cautious and delicate I was being
with it. Later they actually thanked me for being so overtly
considerate.
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What was frustrating for me was how briefly the whole thing
passed. Although it took some 90 minutes or so to film,
it felt like 15 minutes. I hardly got to look at the
extraordinary detail of each illustration and my mind was
racing to memorize all the little subtleties that were evident
because of the texture of the illustrator's brush or the
way the light caught the grain of the page or the manner
in which the contrasting colors gave off some hitherto unnoticeable
element. Still, I gained some insight into some of the key
images that have long intrigued or puzzled me. I did manage
to flip through every page of the foot combat section twice
— but not at the pace I would have enjoyed and not
with Aaron beside me to analysis and discuss finer points
the way we would have preferred. Unfortunately, viewing
the rest of the work was more of the hurry up and "act"
for the camera. In that regard it was disappointing.
But overall the experience was nothing short of thrilling.
Shortly afterward we were looking at a copy of Talhoffer
on my iphone and just shaking our heads at how much of the
beauty of the work was lost in flat photos. Even the most
high-resolution digital edition pales in comparison to how
gorgeous the original was and how much detail could be seen
on every figure.
Fighting by Faking vs. Fake
Fighting
"You
can't fake 'it' unless you actually know 'it.'"
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The majority of the scenes were done with a Hasty cam but
several of our fight sequences Wild Dream used a special
state-of-the-art $90k RED Epic 5k digital cinema camera
(!) for super high-speed slo-mo results that were nothing
short of astonishing. Ted RED cam is so sensitive it literally
captures on frame the dust in the air that the human eye
can't normally see. At the end of the final day our director
said he was totally pleased, saying he was confident he
had gotten something never captured before. Pretty cool.
I especially hope the intense messer fight Aaron and I conducted
in the forest appears in the final edit at enough length
to justify the energy we put into it. We really went
all out on that.
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What we feel we brought to the Medieval
Fight Book combat scenes was something unique. The
typical film fight is the art of faking
it. But none of
the directors or performers really know what the "it" is
that they're faking. They haven't reconstructed "it" well
enough to be able to fake "it" well enough. Their craft
is a performance art not a martial art. It's about prolonging
the fight not shortening it. It invariably relies on exaggerating
and telegraphing moves for safety and theatricality. For
us, however, as martial artists of Medieval and Renaissance
European methods, our craft is completely the opposite.
We conceal our true intentions while reading the opponent's.
Though each discipline uses the same tools and even the
same sources of inspiration and neither intends real harm
when practicing, they are still entirely opposite in motive,
mentality, and goal. So, in order to avoid danger
at all costs the standard approach to stunt-fight arrangement
is to take the violence out of any depiction of violence
because they know no other way. It then becomes operatic,
an armed ballet routine. For us, since constantly
training safely in real fighting arts with real weapons
using a wealth of real techniques is what we do, we are
able to draw on a far greater sense of action using a more
dynamic sense of timing and range. We can then provide
a very different experience for the director's vision of
offering something new to viewers. The simple fact of the
matter is: "It's
far easier for a real fighter to pretend to fight than it
is for a pretend fighter to appear to fight for real."
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Thus, what we don't do is train to mimic some movement sequences.
Rather, we derive spontaneous actions from the key principles
of fighting and the environment (both physical and dramatic).
We apply leverage and utilize space realistically to achieve
a very different appearance than achieved with standard
Hollywood fight-choreography theory. This is not to
be critical of stage combat / theatrical fencing in and
of itself, but rather to contrast it with a love of the
authentic art of genuine historical combat. Performance
fighting for entertainment is always a compromise of violent
reality with need for safety and dramatic necessity. But
the sophistication of the historical craft, the physicality
and emotionality of real personal violence (how human beings
and weapons actually perform and react), is a matter of
real physics, real leverage, real speed, real range, real
timing, and real techniques. It is about simplicity of brutal
actions not the silly, insipid, distortions and misrepresentations
that so plague the stunt fencing guilds that dominate the
entertainment industry.
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This is the very reason why in the 1970s, Bruce Lee, as
a real fighter and expert martial artist, was able to literally
transform fight choreography into something never seen before.
I have been saying for years that the same has yet to happen
for historical Western European fighting styles---which
remain trapped in the absurd clichés of 1930s sport fencers
mixed with the operatic nonsense of kung fu theater. Bruce
revolutionized fight choreography because he was a master
at real movements virtually nobody had seen before. And
he could can execute them with precision. So his fight scenes
had a spontaneity and creative energy --- that we don't
see today even with all the jerky camera-tricks and digital
effects. Instead, we see the theatrical preparation and
choreography, which to the untrained eye might be entertaining
for awhile but don't reflect much at all of the breath and
depth and richness of the physicality it pretends to portray.
It ends up derivative and lacking the dynamism found in
actual violence. This is a reason why we are
now doing something different. ...Whether
or not the editor/directors/powers-that-be recognize enough
to show things at full speed and not turn it into the usual
slo-mo, remains to be seen.
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Proud as we are of what we accomplished on this project,
the one thing that we really feel simply did not get across,
that we were just not allowed to express or go into, was
how the basic movements and techniques shown in Talhoffer's
fechtbuch — especially as evidenced in the substantial
Ringen and dagger images — display a sophisticated
understanding of a highly effective close-combat method.
That to me is unequivocally the central message of the material
for us today. They Medieval world was a violent, brutal,
nasty place that demanded you have such practical skills.
Oh well, that's entertainment. You never really know until
you see what makes the final cut for broadcast.
Misadventure, Inconvenience,
and Airline Frustrations
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I have no intention of ever flying Delta airlines again.
While the flight crews were great and the airport staff
in Denmark very nice, the incompetence of the airline in
general is really unforgivable. We know they can't
do a thing about the inconvenience of the incident that
occurred on our incoming flight. But our bags shouldn't
have then missed both our connection and the same day follow
up flights and certainly shouldn't have taken three days
to be delivered to us.
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It only got worse on our return flight. Despite arriving
at the Copenhagen airport five
hours before our flight's departure, and being the
very first two people in line when the counter opened, they
displayed an astonishing ineptitude. They told us
that not only had our flight already taken off but that
we were already on it! We had to go back and forth between
three different counters because no one console screen had
all the info they needed to correct their screw up.
They took over an hour to clear up their mistake. But meanwhile
we couldn't check our bags in. Then they next told Aaron
that his armor case was now too heavy to be allowed into
the USA – even though it had arrived from the USA
on their airline! Idiots. To make it worse, the case was
actually lighter
than it had been because we had already transferred some
items to our other bags. So, it took us another hour
of labor in front of their counter to lighten the case enough
for them to finally permit it to be checked. By then
it was so late that we had to run to a whole different area
to check in our bags then run through the airport to make
our flight as the last two passengers to board! All
that after arriving 5 hours early. Then at security we were
delayed again when I got pulled out of line because I had
two of those tiny 10-ounce containers of hand cleanser in
my bag -- containers which I had brought with me on the
arriving flight without any incident. They kept us ten minutes
while the woman had to search and search and search to find
them instead of simply asking me where they were. Ugggh.
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If we had gotten to the airport with the standard two-hours
of time we would have certainly missed our flight.
I was pretty pissed because I lost out on some special shopping
for my family that I had planned all week to take care of
at the airport. Plus, as we were waiting in line to
move up to our gate along with passengers for other flights,
I asked the ticket collector if I could bring a glass bottle
drink aboard. He said yes. So I stepped out of line and
a dozen or so feet away purchased two delicious pear ciders
(unavailable in the USA) for Aaron and I. Again, I
asked the vendor if we were allowed to bring bottles aboard.
Now mind you, at this point we were at our gate, well behind
the security area and only waiting to walk down the boarding
corridor to our plane. But once on board the flight attendants
confiscate my bottles telling me they're forbidden onboard!
What total nonsense. I was pretty damn pissed. Then
to add insult to injury, Delta loses Aaron's armor case
on his connecting flight back to Wisconsin! When it
at last turned up days later all his armor was so trashed,
being scratched and bent and deformed, he is convinced some
baggage handlers must have removed it and played around
with it somehow. Delta was simply horrible. They showed
absolutely no professional responsibility or concern for
how they repeatedly victimized us and never offered a single
apology or consolation for all their screw-ups.
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John Clements, Dec 2010
*Update After Airing:
After watching the program on its first air date, I have
to say it was very, very well done. The graphics were beautiful
and the content was well executed. The amount of material
concisely covered made for good television. Still, as a
student of fighting arts it was somewhat disappointing.
It's hard to cover everything in a single 60-minute program.
And yet, there is no escaping the fact that the programmed
failed to bother informing the viewer of the importance
of Talhoffer's manuscript as the first illustrated book
on 15th century Germanic fighting skills, or mention at
all that numerous other versions of the work were produced
as specifically martial art study guides. They focused
some 70% of the program on the war-machines and then most
of the rest on the woman's judicial duel with far less on
the martial arts content, even though these fighting skills
make up more than half the book's actual material--which
you wouldn't know from watching the program. This
is not unsurprising given that it is National Geographic.
But, the fact that National Geographic is doing a program
on a 15th century Fechtbuch at all is in itself exciting.
It was a downer though that our forest messer fight that
we spent half the day doing for them was entirely omitted.
The action we arranged was unprecedented. It was also disappointing
that they left out virtually all the judicial shield fight
as well (even though we were very unsatisfied with how the
shields performed). It was especially disappointing that
they didn't show us fighting at proper speed but instead
went yet again with the slow-motion despite us giving them
tons of beautiful techniques at full energy and also doing
full speed strikes with a sharp blade on armor. It's
baffling why they make the choices they do sometimes. But,
on the bright side, we were both extremely pleased with
how we presented ourselves and how we represented the subject.
Our choreography and demos did look pretty good too.
This is a good start. In the end though, the definitive
program on this material has yet to be done ---and we have
yet to get to showcase what we're capable of doing. - JC
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Behind the Scenes Video Clips:
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Man-Woman
Duel

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Working Out
the Man-Woman Duel Scene

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Performing
Action for High Speed Slo-Mo

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Duelling Shield Scene

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On a raised log
Aaron demonstrates the agility of a man in plate
armor to potential jump-mount a saddle.
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Aaron's impression of the
duelling shield

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John
encounters communication difficulties in the 14th
century

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"Dueling Goober"
- Aaron's true nature exposed

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Images
Day 1 - Monday, August 9, 2010
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Preparing for the
dive suit experiment: a functional reproduction of
the hand-pump for the underwater breathing apparatus
that appears in Talhoffer's Fechtbuch.

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The Master Diver.
We had to pump a replica air compressor to give him
air to breath for part of the scene where Mike Loades
describes the experiment with the apparatus. It was
exhausting.

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Aaron in Armor preparing
to receive cuts against his harness froma sharp
blade.

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Aaron waiting for
some scenes.

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Merely running at
top speed about six times on soft wet ground for some
50 meters or so caused Aaron's sabatons to warp significantly.

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Helping out the crew
with the gear.
Director Stuart Clarke, soundman Alam Jones, and cinematographer
Stephen Hart.

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Late in the day the
near deserted Medieval Center takes on an almost indescribable
illusion of time-travel.

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Chilling in the hours
before the judicial ring is prepped.

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Aaron begins the
first day's shooting with two exhausting hours of
longsword floryshes on the replica dock.

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Aaron begins the
first day's shooting with two exhausting hours of
longsword floryshes on the replica dock.

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Aaron begins the
first day's shooting with two exhausting hours of
longsword floryshes on the replica dock.

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Much of this was
for the director to get a feel for what we could do
and how to use it and for us to get a feel of working
with the crew.

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With Soren of Albion
Swords Europe.

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Warming up on the
dock with the practice Messers.

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Day 2 - Monday, August 10, 2010
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Aaron working out
with the dueling shield.

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Aaron working out
with the dueling shield.

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Working through the
SAFE method before our Messer fight in the forest
sequence.

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Freeze frame of our
messer combat.

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John on the farm
grounds getting in some practice and test cutting
with the Albion Regent longsword.

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Prepping the judicial
dueling pen.

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Filming the hole
being dug for the man-woman duel. It was actually
dug well before by tools and a lot of labor. Then
a reenactor on hand was used with a historical shovel
for the shot. It actually wasn't deep enough and Aaron
had to crouch himself down very uncomfortably.

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The man-woman judicial
duel in action. The man is forced to stand in a hole.
Sometimes his free hand was tied to his waist. Here
we unfortunately didn't have a proper kampfring
(or combat fence) built, just a rope on posts.

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Aaron found out quickly
that not being able to move was a real hindrance,
but striking at his opponent's feet and shin was a
real possibility that kept her away from him - just
as Talhoffer depicts.

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Day 3 - Wednesday, August 11, 2010
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Aaron armed with
an Albion Talhoffer longsword preparing to demonstrate
a full-speed running charge in armor.

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Several times Aaron's
armor started to get twisted and not fit properly
but there was no time or opportunity given to stop
and fix it. We had to continue on knowing in frustration
that it was screwed up and hoping the camera wouldn't
catch it. 
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John late in the
day exploring how fighting might have occurred in
the confines of a 14th century village street.

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John in the afternoon
practicing fight sequences on the open encampment.
The Medieval Center's natural
beauty and accurate historical ambiance make for an
almost magical environment to practice in.

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We discovered quite
by accident a set of historical "mud shoes" at the
center nearly identical to those depicted in Talhoffer
that were something of a mystery. The logic of these
became quite clear when after the second day my historical
shoes were filthy and soaked from all the walking
and fighting on the village's natural ground.

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Feeling a little
goofy… but hey, we're being paid to fight for
TV. Hard to complain.

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With Mike Loades
on our way back to the center for afternoon pick up
shots.

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One of the Medieval
center's immense reproduction trebuchets. Such weapons
are featured in Talhoffer's Fechtbuch. Seeing this
thing hurl a 40-pound concrete ball thousands of feet
is quite a sight. The sound alone is intimidating
and the impact on water is astonishing.

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One of the Medieval
center's immense reproduction trebuchets. Such weapons
are featured in Talhoffer's Fechtbuch. Seeing this
thing hurl a 40-pound concrete ball thousands of feet
is quite a sight. The sound alone is intimidating
and the impact on water is astonishing.

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Several different
kinds of medieval siege weapons at the center.

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Mike Loades atop
the main trebuchet which was preparing to be fired
on camera.

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In the cool rainy
weather, wearing sword and garb, with no one around
but a handful of reenactors, the sense of verisimilitude
among the buildings and grounds of the village was
unparalleled.

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Day 4 - Thursday, August 12, 2010
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Scenic Copenhagen
from our hotel's 14th floor. The library now containing
Talhoffer's work is visible in the dark tower building
mid-left.

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How John enjoyed
his free time in Copenhagen. ("Mmm…")

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How Aaron enjoyed
his free time in Copenhagen. ("Mmm…")

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At the back doors
of the old portion of the library.

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The scenic grounds
of the old library.

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The store room where
Talhoffer's work is kept.

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The head curator
retrieving the actual item. Over 500 years old and
he casually carries it down the stairs.

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The crew at work.

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The original in all
its glory.

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There is no comparing
to seeing the original.

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Aaron and John between
takes with the 1459 Talhoffer.

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The beauty of this
handmade work is stunning. Just thinking about how
Master Talhoffer himself had at one time handled
this was awe producing.

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Getting ready to
film my examination of the Talhoffer.

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Going over how to
handle the delicate pages.

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Pointing out subtle
elements of the illustrations to the curator.

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The director Stuart
prepping John on how he wants the viewing to go.

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Just outside the
library in scenic Copenhagen.

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Our director, Stuart.
with Aaron and John

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